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Snow White

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There's a Turkish version of Snow White called the Magic Hairpins. In that version, the stepmother is her mother and instead of the seven dwarfs there are three brothers who are hunters. Other than that, it's the same story, which is strange.

It's quite good that Marianne Stokes shows the death of Snow White with the dwarfs around the coffin in mourning too.  
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Check out this list.  There are scads of interesting variations on Snow White.
Ta Mischief. I love folktales and have even written stories in the style of a folktale. Great to see the variations too!
       To girish sethna: (and any other who may be interested)
 
      Just because you seem to adore folktales, I would recommend you Greek folktales, in any case.If you haven't came upon them till now, you'll be amazed by their variety- partly result of the unique combination of the hertitage of the very known greek mythology and plenty other influences such as christian traditions,events fom the field of byzantine history and so on.
      Though, I have many collections in mind written in (modern) Greek, I'm not aware of any editions in English. But, if there is any interest from your side I would gladly search for it.



       Medea


Medea,

Greco-Roman myths are the more well-known I would have said. The Greek Myths by Robert Graves is a great intro to them even if some of his interpretations of the tales have since been shown to be wrong. He's never boring at least! I would love to be able to read them in the Greek, but I'm not that good. I am re-reading the translations of the Iliad and Odyssey at the moment tho'.

These days, finding the Norse, Egyptian and others is harder, I think. I am also interested in fairy-lore even if it maddens me to see the perpetuation of the Victorian sanitising of them into pretty young women (usually nude) with wings. The fairies are actually a dangerous bunch verging on the psychotic... on a good day. And there is nothing sweet about Peg Powler or Jenny Greenteeth or the Pwca.

Try Georgios A Megas's Folktales of Greece.
Well, congratulations to mischief for he referred exactly the book I had in mind!
(I was trying to check if there was any english tradition of this classic collection to suggest)

Robert Grave's books are always a point of reference of course. But once somebody wished to give a deeper look to greek mythology, there are some more excellent works as well.

One of this is of Ioannis Kakridis. He is the foremost Greek Homeric scholar of the twentieth century, known worldwide and I could write pages about the importance of his work if it wasn't away of the content of this thread. Anyway, I would like to recomment to girish sethna who is now re-reading Iliad two masterpieces : ''Greek mythology'' which is a very complete and clear display of the ancient time myths ( not of the folktales like these in Mega's collection which have been created quite later, mostly during the years of turkish occupation incorparating of course many of the features of the older tales) and what is more ''Homeric Researches''. For this second work I'm completely sure that it can be found in english. For the fist one, I just hope so.


Even if this isn't the ''right'' thread, a lot of thanks for your help in Siddal's work.


Medea.

 
Medea,

Are these both by Kakridis? I will definitely look to see if there is an English translation. Sadly I cannot read Greek or Latin... classic or modern!

I hope you do find the books I recommended on Siddal, much more deserves to be written on her and indeed on Jane Morris as well.

Girish
Of course they are by Kakridis.

The first one is actually a collective work by a team of professors who are specialists in these themes. Kakridis himself had the general supervision of the whole project and wrote himself big part of the book. The work received the award of the Academy of Athens but its real prize is the vast recognition by scientists and readers. The greek edition is consisted of 5 volumes each one dedicated to a certain mythological circle for example ''Gods'' (where one can find all the myths that have to do with them from the very ancient myths of Creation with ''Ουρανος''(Huranos-Sky) and ''Γαια'' (Gaia- Earth) till the myths of the Hellenistic Era. The collection is more than complete (including all the topical variations as well), the description is picturesque and in general it is such a classic work that should be translated anyway.

The second work is by Kakridis in cooperation with a non Greek writer (i'm unable to bring his name by this moment,sorry!). Personally, I haven't read it, but it is regarded to be one of his best. You can find it in English surely, and some days ago I saw a display of it in the internet site bookfinder.

I'm sure you have listened about Kakridis before -everyone who studies the homeric world comes up to his name. But if you hadn't, it's a great opportunity to come in contact with his work now. If you are fluent in German you can find a lot of his books in that language because he was professor in German Universities too. Kakridis has to give a lot to people who love myths and tales apart from his scientifical offer.

As for the Greek language... I use to compare it to a demanding mistress. She wants all your dedication, passion and patience but she rewards you with a new life meaning...

Please, let me know if you eventually find the books.

Medea 
for more suggestions, the website I pointed out earlier has a discussion group here:
http://surlalunefairytales.yuku.com/forums/1

where more questions can doubtlessly be asked.
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